Belly Expansion Advice

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flyingpilot
Belly Expansion Advice

I've been trying various methods for expanding my belly for years now, and about a year ago I found something that worked really well - only problem is, I can't do it any more.

Basically what I would do is I would lay down flat on my back (without a pillow or anything underneath my head) and swallow air repeatedly. What is important, though, is how I swallowed air. Basically I would open my mouth and suck in my abdomen (as you do when you say you are "sucking in your gut") and then I would open up my esophagus and air would come rushing in under the pressure. Using this method repeatedly, I was able to expand my belly until it was very large. I was very pleased the first time I was able to do this. What seemed to be very advantageous about this method is that it seemed to actually expand my lower abdomen (rather than the upper part), which is something that no other method I'd used had done. Also, afterwards I would have to fart repeatedly, so that seemed to tell me that the air was going through my whole digestive system.

Unfortunately, I was only able to do this twice, and since then I haven't been able to repeat it. When I try it now, my belly inflates a very slight amount, just the same as if I swallow air normally - but it doesn't get huge like it did before. I also don't have to fart afterwards. I'm not sure why this is. It could be that I'm not doing it exactly the same as I did it in the past, or it could be that my body has changed in some way. I have gained a little weight since then, so that could be the reason. I honestly don't know.

Does anybody have any idea why it doesn't seem to work anymore? If someone else could try this method and see if it works, that could be useful.

nineteenthly

I've just tried that and it works pretty well. Thanks for that. It's quite similar to Plavini. I wonder if the problem is the weight gain. It would mean there was less free volume in your abdomen and that a weight would be pressing down on your intestines in some places.

Have you thought about lying on your right hand side and trying it? If it is to do with the weight gain, that would probably overcome it because your stomach would then be at the top. If you did that, though, you'd probably need to turn over to get it to go into your intestines.

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flyingpilot

Thanks for the response. A couple questions:

What (or who) is Plavini?

When you say that I would need to turn over to get the air to go into my intestines, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean I should lie on my back? Also, at what point in the process should I do this? Should I swallow air (lying sideways), lie flat on my back, swallow air, lie flat on my back - something like that, or something else?

nineteenthly

Plavini is a Yoga technique used for inflating the belly. It doesn't sound like you could learn anything from it, as it's basically what you're describing. It's mentioned elsewhere on here.

Sorry not to be clear. What i mean is that since the stomach is (generally) on the left hand side, it's easier to inflate it if you lie on your right because it's then at the top of your body. After that, you might want to get the air to pass through your intestines, and the stomach empties into the middle, not on the left, so it helps to roll onto your left. Then you have the whole twisty-turny maze of the intestines, so it makes sense to keep turning over. It's like trying to guide a marble through a maze, if you see what i mean.

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flyingpilot

Well, I tried what you suggested and it didn't seem to work. Maybe I was just too impatient, but it quickly became uncomfortable to the point of being painful. The times that it worked it wasn't uncomfortable in the slightest.

I also remembered that I tried this method about a month after the first 2 times, and it didn't work then. I'm pretty sure I didn't gain any weight during that time. I'm really not sure why it doesn't work.

I apologize if this is inappropriate, but do you think that you could take a picture of yourself after using this method? I'd just like to see if it actually works in the way that I think it does.

nineteenthly

It's not inappropriate, but with children being constantly around, it's hard for me to do that. It takes a while to deflate. I did have some photos somewhere on CD, but i've lost them. I will try.

Is the problem maybe time scale? When i do this, i leave it maybe ten minutes between each stage, but i also think you could go slowly with a bicycle pump and it would work.

If you're doing it by mouth, the stomach will fill, and you then have to wait for it to trickle into your intestines.

I will get back to you.

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flyingpilot

So I followed your advice and tried taking longer pauses in between swallowing air. It sort of worked. It did inflate an area a bit lower than what normally gets inflated, but my lower abdomen, that is, lower than my navel, didn't seem to inflate at all. This doesn't make sense to me as I did eventually fart (a lot), which implies that it went through my entire digestive system. It could be that I just didn't wait long enough, but after a while it got too uncomfortable. What am I doing wrong, or rather what do I need to do to inflate my lower abdomen (below my navel)?

nineteenthly

I think it partly depends on how much stuff you've got in your digestive system. Sometimes it works better than at others, and i think that's to do with how much food (or let's be frank, faeces) is present. I think it blocks it sometimes. Then, i'm guessing that you get little dribbles of air gradually bubbling through to the anus.

I don't know if you're specifically doing it wrong. I have several suggestions:

* Use some kind of relaxant, like lavender oil rubbed into your belly, taking a warm bath or smoking a "relaxing herb" (can't think what!) and expelling lungfuls of it into your stomach. I actually use cramp bark, but that's too obscure for most people.

* Increase the pressure at the top end with a balloon or a pump, but be careful because of the risk of vomiting or doing damage to the bottom of your oesophagus.

* Wait maybe about ten minutes or longer each time. I don't know how long you waited.

It can be uncomfortable to say the least, but then being inflated is uncomfortable.

I also have to say that i seem to be the only person who finds it easier to do by mouth than by anus. I tried anal inflation yet again a couple of days ago and yet again, it was a complete failure.

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flyingpilot

That's some interesting advice. A few things come to mind:

What might a "relaxing herb" do to help me? Might it relax the muscles in my stomach or something like that?

The thing about having food in your system occurred to me. I've usually tried doing it a few hours after eating, but maybe that isn't enough. Do you you think it make a big difference if I tried fasting for a day and then tried inflating my belly?

Do you think that the part about sucking in your gut and then opening you esophagus is that important? Would it make any difference if I just swallowed air normally instead?

I know that inflation is typically uncomfortable, but what seemed great about this method that I came up with was that it didn't make me uncomfortable at all. I could just keep doing it over and over again and never get uncomfortable. Either something has changed, or I'm just not doing it right.

nineteenthly

The relaxing herb, which incidentally is Viburnum opulus but needs to be processed to make it non-toxic, relaxes both muscles and the muscle in the walls of organs. There is muscle in many organ walls as well as in the form of muscles. That means that if you use a muscle relaxant, you end up with less resistant and you get bigger without so much pain or resistance.

A few hours after eating is probably about right. Fasting tends not to work because if you do that, your stomach contracts. A full stomach also triggers off colonic relaxation because it releases a hormone. That partly depends on the presence of actual food, but mere filling makes a difference. I think a tepid liquid might make a difference. You may need to stretch your stomach first with something, such as easily digested food. Fasting would probably actually make it harder and less rewarding.

Sucking in your gut could be quite important. That's a Yoga technique called Uddiyana Bandha. It involves lifting the diaphragm, so an open cardiac sphincter would pull air in. Swallowing air is easier for me, but i know there are individual variations because of my difficulty with anal inflation. I think you're describing Plavini, but the Yoga texts are vague about it and there's a lot of scepticism about it.

Something which changed for me with Uddiyana Bandha seems to be that because i've gained weight since then (though i'm not overweight, i was just underweight before), i now have a fair volume of fat occupying my abdominal cavity and that's made a difference. Could something like that have changed? Oh, and the other thing was that when i was a teenager, i was less muscular and that also made it easier. Muscle tone and greater muscle bulk definitely interferes.

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flyingpilot

Well, I've tried this several times and in several different poses, and nothing seems to work. My stomach inflates, but my intestines never seem to inflate. I'm considering using a pump of some kind, but I'd like to get some information about it first. What are the risks of using a pump? I've heard that it could cause a rupture or something. How likely is that? Is there a specific kind of pump I should get, or a specific way I should use it? I think I had another question, but I can't remember what it was...

nineteenthly

People more often use a pump anally, but for some reason i've never got _that_ to work. The air does gradually bubble through from the stomach, which empties, then you fill it again and so on. It takes a while but it works for me.

The reason i don't use a pump anally is that, apart from it not working, the one time i did i had blood in my stools for several months afterwards, and i consider it to be fairly risky for that reason. Other people clearly can get it to work, so they would be able to give you better advice than i can. I would imagine that an enema beforehand would make it easier.

Generally people use aquarium pumps. I've heard that Tetra Luft are a good make. That way you don't get high pressure, which might be dangerous.

Maybe i'm just made differently than most people. It does seem to make more sense to me to introduce the air in the direction the digestive system naturally moves its contents though.

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taunge

I use a pump anally to do belly inflation. Yes it can be harmful (I did nearly kill myself because I was an idiot and landed in the hospital for a few weeks) if done incorrectly or improperly. It takes training on the body to do it anally, in all honesty; one can't just inflate themselves to the desired size right off the bat, it takes muscle-training and like any sort of working out it takes time and patience. But if you wanted advice, I could send you a pm on how to go about it anally. I do not suggest going about it orally, as that can damage the esaphagus and your stomach lining as well.

nineteenthly

Sounds like a very embarrassing experience, taunge. Were you honest about what happened?

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taunge
nineteenthly wrote:
Sounds like a very embarrassing experience, taunge. Were you honest about what happened?

It was embarrassing, I'll admit.

I was embarrassed with, first off, having to explain it to hospital staff (who were semi-used to my bandmates and I making random appearances with need for stitches but nothing to this extreme), then I had to explain it face to face to the singer (who doubled as my best friend as well) as to how I landed myself in the ICU. Well, after a few heart-pounding moments and him interrogating me, it just sorta spilled out there. Would you believe it, the first thing he said after my confession was, "Well, I knew you were odd, but I think this takes the cake. And how, uhm, did you end up in the hospital?"

So at least my friend saw light of the situation. So I told him in more depth my folly and he replied 'What? Jesus, why would you do that? Expect yourself to float or something?' In the end, he sorta came to accept that it was a part of me, but I acted foolishly. I could never live it down. It would go down in the band history as the "night that Taunge exploded". (always one for drama, my friend).

But yes, I was honest to the staff. I felt that I had to be in this situation. To lie would be foolish. Almost as foolish as the act that landed me there in the first place.

flyingpilot

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flyingpilot

I wanted to share something that happened to me about 4 months ago, and get your opinions on it.

Every once in a while I'll try something new to inflate myself, and this one time it seemed to work pretty well. I drank 3 cokes, and then used the air swallowing method described earlier in this thread. I did that for about an hour or so, and then drank a couple of glasses of water. Just when I did this, I heard what sounded like water rushing and my lower abdomen seemed to get larger very rapidly for a few seconds. It remained like that for a couple minutes and then gradually got smaller, but it was still larger than normal for about an hour afterwards.

I've tried this exact same strategy many times since then, and I've never been able to get the same results. In fact, my lower abdomen barely seems to get larger at all. There must be something I did differently the first time, or maybe it's just a matter of chance. In any case, do you have any idea as to why this might've happened the first time, and why it hasn't happened since?

sethshark
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wow, who would have thought sifting through the old discussions would pay off. ive just tried this type of inflation and its great, it does take a while though.

flyingpilot

Which method did you use, the one in the post right above yours or the one at the beginning of the thread?

sethshark
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sorry that wasnt very clear. the one right at the start of this thread, about sucking in air. ive done it several times and amazed myself at how big i got.

flyingpilot

How much do you weigh? As was discussed earlier in this thread, I believe that my inability to achieve the effects I used to get might be due to weight gain. That's one more reason I want to lose weight. Anyway, it would be helpful to have some evidence to support or dispel this theory.

sethshark
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i weight about 95kg but thats cause im quite tall, so not much fat on my stomach at all really. i did it again last night and got to my biggest size yet, still not huge but im building it up slowly.

any other questions just drop me a line, im happy to help

nowhere123

I've Been swallowing air for a few weeks now. I can't say I have gotten very big but I can feel my stomach stretch and it's amazing but after swallowing air for about ten to fifteen minuets my stomach can't stretch anymore which is kind of disappointing but I hope to one day be able to make my belly huge just by swallowing air.

SonicExeDude
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Hello. Um,well,  do not understand the "opening esophagus" part could you explain it a little more? Also, i can try to breathe in amounts of air a limited number of times before i cant do it anymore, like when you suck in air repeatedly without breathing out

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Crimson Crystal
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if you ask me i may not no muctch and inflation is jsut a thing i do normaly on a daily bases and its quite easy it just depends on your current body statuse and how your digestive system works,to be honest its kinda of easy you just need to take your time stop imeadily if it hurts let some air out then take it back and keep on,just don't hurt your self i guess.

 

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Ckakadiya

Howmany times i can inflate(air) my bally anally in a week...

AirPump
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Don't necropost.

Everyone is different. Typically about twice a week is average. If you notice digestive problems (diarrhea, heartburn, vomiting, etc.) you've likely done it too frequently. If not, you can probably tollerate more often.

Some people can inflate anally every day, some maybe only once a week. Your choice of medium matters too. If you inflate with air you can typically tollerate it much more often than water. Point is, everyone is different, and to know for sure what you can do, you need to experiment.

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