Mortal Kombat 1

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Sat, 09/09/2023 - 03:35

SpryCarrion

Mortal Kombat 1

Well everyone, it's that time again. The New Era is upon us with Mortal Kombat 1.

It's been 12 years since the last Inflatality, and to be honest, this drought probably isn't going to be ending anytime soon.

Kitana's Kiss of Death was swept under the rug in MKX, then censored in MK11. The body inflation was omitted in a sacrilegious affront called "Deadly Lips". Rain hasn't fared any better.

I should know better at this point, but part of me still hopes Kameo Kitana will be added later on. The Klassic Fatalities shown so far have been superb. Jax's "Big Boot", Sektor's "Compactor", and especially Cyrax's planet destroying "Armaggedon".

Seeing these cartoonishly over-the-top fatalities brought back so faithfully made me imagine a Kameo Kitana with her MK2 Kiss of Death, even though it's just a fantasy with a dismal chance of happening. Not to mention it could always be the Decapitation again or that inflationless husk from MK11.

People are getting their hands on copies of the game early, and the official release is right around the corner. If by some miracle there is anything, I'll report it here.

Apart from that, Mortal Kombat 1 General.

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Wed, 09/13/2023 - 20:11

caffiene

It still bothers me that this fatality hasn't come back. Every other character has had their original fatalities faithfully recreated over and over again but this one never has been. Like op said; the few times it has been included it's been watered down and weird. I just wonder why.

I can't imagine it's because of us. So many of their fatalities are fetish fuel; and they obviously count on sex appeal to sell their games, so I can't believe a particular community getting off to one of their fatalities in particular would bother them. I just wonder what the reason is?

Anyone ever read any interviews on the subject?

...I meant that sarcastically.

Thu, 09/14/2023 - 03:41

SpryCarrion

Kitana's second fatality has been revealed to be the Kiss of Death, but with a new effect. Instead of inflating and exploding, they just melt. I'm suprised to see it has returned as an actual fatality, but I'm not surpised they did something other than the inflation. I anticipated that If she had it, it would have been either the inflationless, UMK3, or MK4 variants, or a new effect. I suppose that's one space crossed off the bingo chart.

Caffiene, I can give you a likely reason.

I've been asking Ed Boon and NetherRealm Studios to bring back Kitana's Kiss of Death faithful to MK2 for almost a decade now on Twitter/X. Since October of 2016. Either that, or Rain's Bubble Burst. NetherRealm does listen to what people want.

Please know, I've never harrassed or threatened them or done anything vulgar. Just one or two concise messages a year asking for them to bring them back faithfully. I was too ambitious after MK11, I desperately wanted the MK2 Kiss of Death back after it was stripped of the body inflation.

I'm the bad guy in this situation, not Ed Boon and NetherRealm Studios. They gave me a heartfelt gift with Sub-Zero's "Grandmaster Blueberry Ice" nickname in MK11, something I still adore even now, but I raced past it aiming for more and flew to close to the sun. I'm not angry about how this turned out, just deeply saddened and disheartened. Frankly, I deserve it.

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Thu, 09/14/2023 - 15:55

(Reply to #3) #4

caffiene

If you single-handedly annoyed Ed Boon and John Tobias into specifically NOT including a fatality I would be awed at your clout. I sincerely doubt you had anything to do with it.

that being said, have they ever replied to you on the subject?

...I meant that sarcastically.

Thu, 09/14/2023 - 20:49

(Reply to #4) #5

SpryCarrion

John Tobias left the team around 1999/2000, Ed Boon has been steering the ship ever since.

There hasn't been a direct response, but I consider the "Blueberry Ice" nickname to be an acknowledgment.

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Thu, 09/14/2023 - 22:12

SpryCarrion

Also Caffience, I wanted to touch on someting you said earlier about other fatalities being fetish fuel.

There was a lot of macrophilia in MK11. Cetrion's "Good and Evil" fatality was literally giantess fetishism. Cassie Cage & D'Vorah's endings also channeled this. Now in MK1, there's more of it with Jax's "Big Boot". You already know the people are to be modding that fatality and make compilation videos of all the female characters doing it. Especially the ones with their feet exposed like Sindel for example.

There's also the deep end of things. Kabal's "Hooked" fatality in MK11 is a great example, when he has his hookswords latched into the victims jaw and the camera switches to a close up of their face? You can see their eyes look towards the camera. The Ryona/Guro crowd were going to have a field day with that one.

NetherRealm allows for that, but they won't touch Kitana and Rain's Inflatalities? I'm worried that even if they returned, so much time will have passed since MK9 that no one will care anymore.

I'm already seeing comments peppered across social media of people praising NRS for the new Kiss of Death, saying things like "Good riddance to those inflation weirdos, maybe now they'll leave Kitana alone" and such.

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Sat, 09/16/2023 - 08:18

(Reply to #6) #7

caffiene

Well if they think we're EVER going to leave Kitana alone I have some bad news for them. Lol

But everyone hates everyone else on the internet, I find it hard to believe that's all it takes to make Netherrealm cave.

...I meant that sarcastically.

Mon, 09/18/2023 - 02:12

(Reply to #7) #8

SpryCarrion

That's true. It's just not a fun experience when we're on our longest streak of bad luck, and they're using it as an opportunity to kick us while we're down. The only thing we can do now is preserve.

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Tue, 09/26/2023 - 06:26

darkburster2

I already wrote MK1 out of my memory. At this point, the little kiss we got in MK11 was actually better than what we got in MK1. they even explode! It sucks really bad still, but MK1 her Kiss fatality is the worst in the whole franchise of all kiss fatalities to appear in a game ever lol. I mean she covers the kiss up with her fan and again refuses to even take her mask off anyways, thats like double censoring btw lol.

No bubble burst obviously. If you watch all the fatals, just as with the past 2 games, they reuse all the dismemberment stuff they can, or they just quickly splatter into thier generic mess.

Mind you, back in 2011 I had given up on seeing the inflation return at all in MK, and then while watching a "all fatalities" montage after the DLC characters were all out, thats when my eyes suddenly went wide af during Rain's 1 fatality.

Theres always a super slime chance someone will have something that unexpectedly causes it again like that time, but just as back then- ive basically given up hope and will just ignore thier content until all the DLC is out/or next game. (which theyre doing injustice 3 next, so next MK could be nearly another 10 years from now.)

They could easily have more and more fatalities through DLC but refuse to go past 2 even though fatalities and blood is all that makes MK special.

Theyre fine with gigantism though, and someone clearly has a high heel fetish too, cuz ever since MK9- all the girls been in high heels nomatter what thier footwear is or how little sense it makes.
Giant stomp has been in 3 of the last 4 games now too btw. (Ermac in MK9, Jax in MK11 and now again in MK1)
and yeah cetrion turned into a giant too.

fuck that company. Im sticking with Street Fighter 6/capcom.

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Wed, 09/27/2023 - 02:52

(Reply to #9) #10

SpryCarrion

I grew up playing Mortal Kombat and have been a fan for almost my entire life. Writing it out of my memory isn't going to happen at this point. Mortal Kombat 2 won't be a decade away, more likely 2026/2027.

Just a couple screenshots of my Rain build. If you ever change your mind and decide to give MK1 try, reach out to me If you happen to play on PC, we'll go a few rounds.

Often I think back to the day Rain's gameplay trailer was revealed for Mortal Kombat 9. Believe me, I would do anything do be able to reexperience that afternoon again. Just to feel that irrepressible, heart pounding joy once more.

What are your thoughts on Li Mei in MK1? I believe she was/is your go to for Inflatalities based on your MUGEN edits.

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Sat, 09/30/2023 - 03:31

(Reply to #10) #11

darkburster2

I never got MK1, and never will. I grew up with the classic MK1+2 etc back in the 90's as well, thats where it all started for me (inflation and MK together lol)

MK1 Li Mei is ok, but I liked the way MK11 Kitana looked better. (I like her better than the MK1 kitana as well) I like the MK1 Sindel, but none of its enough to get me to play it.

Yes, Li Mei is one of my main go-to's for Inflatalities in MKP/Mugen. (Nami, Rukia, Li Mei, and theres a few others with some extra unique inflations ive made, like Cassie and Sonya)

I have a mk9 Skarlet for that mugen too now, I already remade her inflation, but im sure il do more with her in the future.

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Mon, 10/02/2023 - 21:06

(Reply to #11) #12

SpryCarrion

Well, If you ever change your mind, be sure to give me a heads up.

I just feel guilt and remorse for possibly ruining whatever chances of getting an Inflatality back. Like I said earlier, I campaigned for Kitana to have her Kiss of Death brought back faithfully, and this happened. I bit the hand that fed me, and now karma is coming back around.

Maybe in the end I had nothing to do with it, and it was just too difficult to render/animate so they gave up on the inflation. That they really haven't been censoring it all along, it was jus too difficult to manage. I don't know anymore. I know apologizing won't change anything at this point, that's okay and I accept that. I'm not angry, just disheartened and regretful. In the grand scheme of things, there are incomparably worse things happening in the world to be upset about. Not getting an Inflatality is dissapointing, but it isn't important in the broader sense.

Ed Boon does respond to fans on Twitter/X. He does read and respond to messages people send, but I doubt he wants to be reading anything I have to say at this point. I'm fearful I wore out my welcome, and wouldn't be suprised If I was muted. Apologizing won't change anything, but I just wish he knew how sorry I am. If this new Kiss of Death really is push back for me being irritating, then I fully accept it at fair punishment.

I certainly cherish the "Grandmaster Blueberry Ice" nickname more so now than ever. I can tell you that much. Who knows, maybe a Kameo Rain will turn up with his Bubble Burst as his Klassic Fatality, but I doubt it. I think our luck is exhausted with Mortal Kombat 1.

Maybe Mortal Kombat 2 will be our long awaited big break, it would certainly be fitting, given that the original MK2 of 1993 is where Inflatalities began. If it isn't, we'll just keep moving forward and hope for the best someday. Keep the dream alive.

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Tue, 10/03/2023 - 18:14

(Reply to #12) #13

darkburster2

I doubt it's because of you honestly. Just nobody in there with a diverse creative mind. And I doubt Ed boon has that much control over the fatalities anymore anyways. Like Stan Lee in the MCU, he may have started it, but nowadays he's just a face for MK.

Even if that's not the case, I still doubt 1 person would make them do something like that. It's probly just all the people they have all think alike, and so all the fatalities start blending together. Sure a couple stand out or they're just new spins on old ideas, but when it's not, they put out some really lackluster fatalities and even the character designs are all starting to look alike.

I know for a fact they're going to do injustice 3 before another mk game, so a MK2 is going to be a long time off. I doubt we'll get inflation back though. Everyone there still thinks decaps and dismemberments are the coolest thing ever, and if someone explodes, it's just this spontaneous, generic, unanimated splatter.

I'd rather work on mk mugen than look at mk1

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Tue, 11/14/2023 - 03:05

#14

SpryCarrion

There are a few things to share, nothing groundbreaking, but worth touching on nevertheless.

The seasonal Thanksgiving Fatality. It's not inflation, just stuffing with miniscule expansion. It would have been better if it had the victim swelling up and exploding after being fed the turkey. Yet another missed opportunity.

Mortal Kombat Legends: Cage Match features a Inflatality. It's brief, but it's there. Ashrah stabs a Brotherhood of Shadow mook with her enchanted Kriss, causing his body to inflate and explode. It is very reminiscent of Kitana's MK2 Kiss of Death. Here are some screenshots...

One of these days they're going to do a Mortal Kombat Legends based around Kitana and Mileena. I can imagine it would feature a scene where we would see her perform the Kiss of Death, but given how it was portrayed in MK1, I'm not optimistic they'll stay true to the inflate and explode effect.

I also recently found an interview Kotaku did with Steve Beran, who has been on the MK team since '94 and it currently the art director at NRS. He talks about the fatality creation process at NetherRealm. It's a few years old, from around the time MK11 was released. There is one portion that is worth mentioning...

"But funny doesn’t mean slapstick. “Mortal Kombat has always had a sense of humor, but there’s a line where things become corny,” Beran said. One fatality move from 1995's Mortal Kombat 3 that was too corny was the character Kabal inflating his opponent’s heads and popping them. “They were like balloons,” he said. “That’s way too silly for something we’d do now. It’s too Scooby Doo—not Scooby Doo necessarily, but Bugs Bunny.”

Obviously he's referring to Kabal's fatality from MK3. Speaking for myself, I have no interest in head inflation, but that fatality is more or less in the same vein as Kitana's Kiss of Death and Rain's Bubble Burst. "They were like balloons" in those fatalities too. It wouldn't surpise me if this was a contributing reason for why they ommited the body inflation from "Deadly Lips" in MK11.

It doesn't make sense for Beran to say they're too "Bugs Bunny" for MK these days. Erron Black has a Brutality where his opponent picks up a live stick of dynamite, begins curiously inspecting it, then explodes in their face. Leaving only their disfigured, but still standing corpse. It's literally like something out of Looney Toons. That, and Liu Kang dropping an arcade cabinet on his opponent. And Jax sprouting into a giant, crushing his opponent underfoot. And Cyrax oblitering the Earth, and so on. Certainly nothing cartoonish about any of them...

There was another interview conducted recently on Playstation Network that also revealed that Ed Boon still has creative input when it comes to fatalities. While ideas come in from all around the studio, he ultimately has the last say. So in the end he greenlit the new Kiss of Death. All of the years I've spent campaigning to him to bring this fatality back proper, just to end up ruining our chances because I protested what they did to it in MK11. Now instead of inflating and exploding, they decompose. I don't believe that's a coincidence.

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Tue, 11/14/2023 - 17:03

(Reply to #14) #15

doubleintegral

Respectfully, I think you are greatly overstating your importance. Whatever the game devs did or didn't do, it wasn't because of you.

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Wed, 11/15/2023 - 05:37

(Reply to #15) #16

SpryCarrion

No need to be polite about it. I think I'm just delusional and losing my grip. I'm constantly trying to rationalize it all, looking for hidden motives that are probably just vapid bullshit. Maybe I just can't accept that NetherRealm is never going to do an Inflatality again. That all of my "campaigning" (If you could even fucking call it that) was for nothing and just me deceiving myself into beliving one day the dream would be realized. Whenever I think about it my thoughts go in all directions.

The Thanksgiving fatality is something, but I'm not convinced it's a positive indicator for the future.

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Sun, 11/19/2023 - 06:21

(Reply to #16) #17

darkburster2

I just posted a MK-Thanksgiving inspired scene of Nami getting stuffed instead and having eggnog poured down her throat... As for the actual MK1 fatality- theres 0 stomach bursting which with everything leading up to that being the obvious route, they 180's and turned it into another decap essentially. Also the fatality is half-assed. its consistent across all characters, if you view it frame by frame as the belly "inflates" you can tell its just a screen filter on the model instead of the model actually inflating, and you can see parts where the clothes jiggle and become super blurry becuz of how cheaply they made it.

next, when it cuts to different angles, like when theyre falling back in the chair, theyre normal again until they hit the ground then suddenly the *big belly is back. .......*big by recent MK standards lol.

I cant say it isnt inflation, it certainly is- im just not liking it enough to want to go get the game even with modded character models.

Im planning on drawing 2 mini comics that are essentially how I wouldve done the fatality. So for what it was, it was just good enough to inspire to make something myself based on it lol.

Doesnt give me any hope of seeing a classic inflation fatality actually return though, especially how they made it- it shows their character models do not support that kind of inflation and it would be something I could probly make with a phone app. Il stick to mugen content for now over MK1.

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Thu, 11/23/2023 - 05:01

#18

darkburster2

I just uploaded the final/colorized version- Happy Thanksgiving yall.

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Fri, 11/24/2023 - 03:40

(Reply to #18) #19

SpryCarrion

I know I'm a bit late, but Happy Thanksgiving to you too. Hopefully it was a good one!

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Sat, 11/25/2023 - 11:20

#20

Violin100

Happy Belated Thanksgiving everyone!

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